Introduction

Ross and Bryce are back with a look at recent developments, including the ODNI's short-lived saucer logo, the return of the International UFO Conference (Bryce will be speaking!), the Defense Authorization Act, and the fact that Florida's Senate race will yield a pro-UAP Senator regardless of the outcome. But the bulk of this episode is their conversation with John Chapman. The retired British Army soldier decided he'd seen enough carnage from Ukraine, and took his considerable skills to the front lines. There, while battling Russian forces, he and his men saw a UAP. John describes the circumstances that brought him to Ukraine, the situation that night and what he remembers about the object that he says was only about 1,000 feet in the sky.

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