Abby: I think what you said, Abby, just now about the trauma of growing up and knowing that this is just how it might be for you as a queer person. And when we put folks in a society where their bonds are necessarily insecure, because they can't rely on them in an official space to act in a way that honors and reflects their relationship,. That kind of insecurity is a trauma and affects their relationship. It's like if our kids know in their bones, they're brilliant humans, that their relationship with their parent with Abby is completely predicated on me.