Are the Changes Helping You Change?

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Sally Kohn: I'm someone who started meditating a handful of years ago and not such a tenant of it's just like groundlessness. Get comfy with the fact that everything you love you lose, she says. That sounds like one of your survival strategies. Is it just resisting the idea that there will ever be any solid ground? Well, it definitely feels like on a good day, it's something that I can find comfort in. And this is a big place for Sarah to learn how to grow up a little bit.

1. Abby shares with Sara the great personal impact Sara’s music has made on her life.

2. Sara and Glennon bond over the joy of solitude, the underrated gifts of being heavy-hearted, and the fact that “there are too many things to be worried about at all times” to be lighthearted.

3. When you are in deep stress, do you try to sabotage your job, relationship, etc.? (Before this conversation, Amanda thought it was just her.)

4. How playfulness and joy – connecting to the little kid who grew up into you – are vital to loving yourself.

5. Sara’s beautiful journey with medication for depression and anxiety – and how she learned her anxiety often arises from an unexpressed need.

About Sara:

Sara Bareilles is a Tony Award and Emmy Award nominated actor, and Grammy Award winning singer and songwriter.

On Broadway, Sara composed music and lyrics for Waitress, in which she was also the lead. Sara also produced original music and executive produced the musical drama series Little Voice. She plays Dawn Solano on the Emmy-nominated musical comedy series Girls5eva, and stars as The Baker’s Wife in the Broadway revival Into the Woods.

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