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394: Lessons from the Stoics. Discipline, Leadership, Life. With Ryan Holiday.
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The Complexity of Commitment
"I'm going to hold my fire till it makes a difference. That's how, that's how they make you complicit," he says of his time in the White House. "You know, am I not on the hook because I was 23 and I shouldn't have been in the position to begin with? You know, it's complicated." He adds: "If everyone operated that way, no change would ever actually happen"
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