In this episode, Jen and Patrick are joined by David Pulsipher to delve into the uncomfortable topic of conflict, violence, and the difference between peacekeeping and peacemaking. They share their personal experiences and struggles with addressing conflict head-on. Despite the initial discomfort of the story of Nephi killing Laban, they recognize the value in unpacking difficult situations. This episode aims to explore the importance of navigating conflict and the growth that can come from embracing uncomfortable conversations.

[00:01:11] Peacekeeping vs. peacemaking.

[00:04:14] Dealing with violent scriptures.

[00:09:02] Peace and societal alignment.

[00:16:06] Nephi's faith in God.

[00:18:05-00:18:15] Faith and divine intervention.

[00:23:49] Nephi's unreliable memory.

[00:27:33] Nephi's fascination with the sword.

[00:31:11] Power of physical force vs. spiritual force.

[00:36:44] Relying on man-made weapons.

[00:41:47] Peacebuilding and moral imagination.

[00:44:16] Nephi's Law and Justification.

[00:49:40] Peacemaking as Sacrifice.

[00:53:08] Dual inheritance of word and sword.

[00:57:45] Reconnecting with God.

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