I read that when you were 12, you started to enter magazine competitions where you were asked to draw a turtle or a pirate. And I remember doing that too. When I was a kid, they were they were ads in the TV guide. The ad was for art instruction schools, which is a Minneapolis-based correspondence course. Charles Schulz, the creator of Peanuts, also won a scholarship to go there. That's where he actually went. He's their most famous alum.