Gabrielle Sherman: What's the place for mourning grieving? Somehow I'm really touched there, just grieving this struggle we have to make every day to swim upstream in this culture that is toxic. Part of my problem in life, is that I refuse to grieve. It took years for me to integrate it. That can have happened. But the meaning that you created about life as a result of it. You don't have to drag that around. And then raising your own kids. Yeah. A lot of failure for one thing and misery. A relationship with a wonderful one that I've been married to for 50 years.

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