There's just a lot of collective trauma as a result of, you know, the sort of consumerism and the sort of individual individualistic kind of society that we've lived in. So lots of healing meets we've done enough but I do think the younger generation does see that. It's a good part to land on before we get veered too much into the pessimistic again which I feel like if we, with me it always doing that so I like this kind of optimistic note.

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