i alex bernson's point that all the industrialized countries can't all be bad at counting their dead. The problem is not that they counted em as the people who analyzed that count after the fact, forgot to adjust for demographics an age. If you don't do that, it doesn't matter if the data is correct, you're going to get the wrong answer either way. I haven't seen the study, and if i said i i saw it, i wouldn't know if it were true. So there's, i don't think there's any place to go with that conversation. What would be useful t would be to have somebody who is opposite in opinions from alex

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