"Why should I care how people end up with it? That doesn't work in my opinion," he says. "It doesn't matter what part of the chain they exist in, that's completely irrelevant" If you're a clothing company and you put logos on shirts, but the shirts are made in sweatshops,. You're selling shirts that aremade in sweatshops. But I am, but you've got my position in this transaction reversed. So then, so I should just. move yourself in the chain if we want."

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