The Data-Scaling Tradeoff and Usefulness Threshold

This week, we’re joined by Bernt Bornich, chief executive of 1X. We talked with him about NEO, his company’s new humanoid robot, which has the internet buzzing. Then we meet NEO itself, and compare notes on the experience. Finally, we close the week with a roundup of tech news headlines: It’s time for some HatGPT.

Guests:

• Bernt Bornich, chief executive of 1X

Additional Reading: 

• I Tried the Robot That’s Coming to Live With You. It’s Still Part Human.
• Invasion of the Home Humanoid Robots
• There Are More Robots Working in China Than the Rest of the World Combined
• Trump Pardons Founder of the Crypto Exchange Binance
• For Podcasters, a Voice Clone Is a Double-Edged Sword

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