Long form media lacks that sheen and it has that authenticity because we have the opportunity to have one hour and nine minute conversations like this. It's becoming more of the social norm, for example, for someone to go on a YouTube channel or on a podcast or on social media and be extremely open and personal about what they're going through in their lives. I was originally attracted to your podcast because of that same, that authenticity and I think it made it a lot easier to see myself in you.

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