Analyzing the Stages of Grief within the Biden Campaign

"Nothing, nothing, can come in the way of saving our democracy. That includes personal ambition." President Biden explained his move to the American people in an address Wednesday night. Now, a new race lies ahead -- one no longer so focused on the past, between two candidates who've already done the job of president. So what is it about? Axios co-founders Mike Allen and Jim VandeHei take us inside their reporting.

Guests: Axios co-founders Mike Allen and Jim VandeHei, authors of the Axios "Behind the Curtain" column

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