i started programming a little bit in basic and i think that's kind of when i really found out how much fun this is. Then i was interested in a lot of other non computer things for a long while. Andlaw, specially continental law, german law is er very much like a calculus tracing back to ancient rome. That was really my gateway, drucg, to to get back into programming, really logics. So a law degree, but yo're working as a softe engineer. It's interesting, i hadn't really thought about it. But thinking about the way you have to mentally sort of solve the problems and the constraints of legal contracts and laws and