When it comes to trading, it's not just managing risk. It's like the execution of the entire thing. So yeah, no, risk is interesting. And then I'll get to the, you know, how he started, but this is, I guess, working my way backwards. He'd lost his job because of the financial crisis and didn't want to be without money or unemployed again. Then he got a really good job and it was paying him very well. Now they're getting all technical. All right. Let's try a different approach to communicating myself.

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