The Scale of Dishonesty in the House of Representatives

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LZ Granderson: It seems to me what can't be argued for at this point is that it's acceptable to have had a president who is lying at this scale, this maliciously and deranging our politics on that basis. This lie that the election was stolen, the lie that we had a sitting president who wouldn't commit to a peaceful transfer of power, and the party has defended him on this, that's just so far beyond the pale here. LZ: I agree with you entirely in the sense that, you know, my late friend, P.G.R.O.K., would defend Trump here. He says he wasn't trying to connect the dots but

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