If flademapusians war ended in abject defeat, that would be bad for china. China doesn't like instability, and would not like the west claiming a win. A weaker russia that has to sell stuff to china cheaply suits china's purposes pretty well. But there is a lot of mutual suspicion they are not the same kind of power. The russians are much more willing to take risks. To launch military adventures to be wreckers of the world's order. And you can actually hear bits of frustration. Vladimir puton said at an economic forum in vladivostock a few days agothat the chinese are master negotiatos. Tey