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E10: Sam Harris on Populism, Polarization, and His Beef with the Left and the Right

"Upstream" with Erik Torenberg

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The Transformation of Ezra Klein

I think we have more of a default respect for institutions. We don't want delusional people in charge, and we don't want a nation of misinformation at moments like 9-11. I'm not aware of having interacted with inglaziest, but I feel like there must be some history there that I'm that I'm unaware of. There's no love loss between me and Ezra Klein, as you know,. And so it is when we declare war on another society, or another society declares war on us, right? It seems to be the software people have running on their brains now by the tens of millions in our society.

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