I think we urgently need to stop faking certainty almost like almost to learn to mistrust the people that are too certain because I can't see anything to be very certain about. What you can be certain about is your value system and that can structure the way that you think. And what I have found is when I can really lean into those values and those tough moments, that's the only way that I found that I'm walking away proud of how I responded rather than ashamed or embarrassed or disappointed or angry Or whatever it is. That was such a beautiful conversation. Oh, this is great. Thank you.

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