When the Doo Is Lost, Goodness, When the Good Is Lost, Say This Again

There is no system that humans have created that can operate devoid of human agency or value. In daoism, it says, soon as you name something, and as soon as you you start consciously thinking about good about this thing called the dao, you lose the dao,. As soon as you lose goodness, what is goodness? It's not the dowr because you've named it, but the very fact that you've had to examinly the highly refined orgin of etroe can be contained in human communication. So now you and i have a conversation about goodness right? The problem is, as soon as we have a conversations about goodness  it starts to apply judgment