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Is God on the Side of the Republicans or the Democrats?
I think we got to get beneath the slogans of the mantras and talk about human reality on the ground. For example, we shouldn't be talking ideologically about immigrants. And what do you think it feels like to break up a family? I think we should be not talking ideologically about health care delivery. That is we got to bring the discussion down to the level of human pain and human suffering and human reality because we're dealing with our real people and not slogans. It's also correct to say we made an idol of political parties so that we're constantly trying to put God on one side or the other.