I've Never Been on the Other Side of It, but You Make It Harder

I was thinking while you were speaking and as you're getting animated that I speak to Joel, I'll be a stain. He's an iron act and like all their players have fitted the moment. So he's got a lot of kind of non-selection conversation. And we were just chatting about like those types of conversations. And I would imagine you were quite hard to drop. Like in the first instance that you said I went quiet. But actually I, again like it's a coaches nightmare. Those type of conversations. All I wanted as a player was something to go and work on. At times of being a conversation and just not get anything to clean up. They try and make