Will We Weather That Storm in the Next Decade?

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D angelo: There are many reasons to worry about our political situation. Social media also gives me the perception that people are just constantly at each other's throats. Will we weather that storm in the next decade? I 've no idea. We can't, like, sit back and assume that it's going to be all peachy. It will literally take a significant amount of us to learn how to do that.

Chloé Valdary is a writer and entrepreneur whose company, Theory of Enchantment, aims to offer a “human approach” to diversity and inclusion training.

In this week’s conversation, Yascha Mounk and Chloé Valdary discuss the flaws of the dominant paradigm in diversity, equity, and inclusion; why many of today’s interpersonal conflicts stem from a larger crisis of meaning; and how to engage in big debates about social issues without becoming a combatant in the culture war.

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