158: Spirituality Without the Con
Conspirituality
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The Importance of Scale and Qualities of Care
Julian Zelizer: For me, the line that you're talking about between legitimate work and jumping the shark is really also about scale and qualities of care. He says with Dispenser, we have this influencer celebrity scale going on where charismatic performance is like the main product. And in our book, we told the story of Mary who came out of the podcast to describe how she cared for her husband, Louis, through his death from pancreatic cancer. Zelizer: We risk endorsing naturopaths by spotlighting the good apples.
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