Magic Is an Intellectual Art Form

Penn Jillette, one of the greatest magic men in history, joins Brian for a fascinating dive into his career. They talk about the key ingredient in his 47-year partnership with Teller, the “scientist” who never deserved to have such an influence on his life, and how a career as “carny trash” would have been perfectly fine by him.

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.