The Politics of Rights Discourse in American Criminal Justice

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CNN's John Sutter was looking for articles that address this disconnect between theory and practice. He came across a paper on rights discourse in America, and in particular in the criminal justice system. It bears some responsibility for legitimizing the way that black people and poor people are treated in the justice system," he says. "It may have even worsened their play"

Poor and black defendants have more legal rights than ever, but that didn't stop mass incarceration. Why is that? We talk about a paper by Paul Butler called "Poor People Lose: Gideon and the Critique of Rights." Plus, we answer the question that’s on everyone’s mind: how to live as an anti-natalist. And Tamler is appalled to discover David's anti-natalist leanings.