The Distinction Between the Chattering Classes and the SMP

I was really struck, you've talked about the leadership campaign there a few times. The thing that really struck me about Kate Forbes is that it may well have been different in Scotland, but if you read the media coverage here in England,. I want to ask you how much you think the SMP party machine or the upper echelons of the SMP, how distant they have become from SMP members and ordinary SMP supporters and voters. You mentioned earlier that they've lost a huge number of members in recent years. Do you think the leadership campaign told us something about a growing chasm between the party leadership in ordinary members and supporters?