The Anthropocene and the Capitalocene

Bob Greene: I think he's very successful in what he sets out to do, which is to provide an alternative framing to the Anthropocene. And like the, his framing of the Capitolocene is, I think, a vastly more productive model. It seems to have a lot more explanatory force. The general shape of the theory is so good. That's that's straight up my, straight up my alley. This has been wonderful to have you back on the show.