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What’s up Rock Nation! Today we’re joined by Zack Honarvar – the operator behind creator empires like Yes Theory, Airrack, and Boring Stuff, the company helping creators master their finances.

Zack breaks down how top creators think like founders, why formats beat consistency, and the systems behind viral content and sustainable growth. We also get into monetization, burnout, and the most underrated skill in the creator economy.

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Timestamps:

0:00 – Intro

1:04 - Paid To Be You

1:27 - What Separates Creators Who Break Out

2:47 - Consistency Doesn’t Equal Growth

5:00 - Why Most Creators Plateau

5:48 - Find the Format, Not Just Frequency

7:50 - Titles & Thumbnails Matter More Than You Think

11:52 - Why Most Creators Burn Out

14:07 - Win $100k from Stan Store

16:11 - When Creators Became Media Companies

17:59 - Talent vs CEO: Pick Your Path

20:21 - Picking the Right Creator to Work With

24:22 - Timing Beats Clever Ideas

25:41 - The Mistake Creators Make With Products

28:18 - How to Escape a Creator Plateau

31:18 - Can Creators Take Breaks Without Dying?

33:01 - The Systems That Buy You Freedom

34:59 - Think Like a Scientist With Content

35:58 - What Actually Moves the Needle in Videos

38:27 - Why Creators Need a Tax Business

41:21 - How Creators Save Thousands on Taxes

43:00 - Why California Still Wins

45:07 - Recruiting Is the Real Superpower

46:41 - Personal Brand as a Hiring Tool

48:13 - Do You Even Need to Make Content?

51:03 - The Skills Most Creators Don’t Have

53:40 - Why Hiring Cheap Backfires

54:55 - How to Build a Real Operator Skillset

58:32 - Product Development Before Everything

1:01:21 - Learning to Hire People Smarter Than You

1:06:49 - The Long Game of Creator Businesses

1:09:38 - Why Intentional Creators Win

1:13:23 - Building Businesses, Not Just Views

1:16:36 - Final Advice for Serious Creators

1:21:41 - Advice to an 18 year old

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