Ali Lewis from the National Centre for Atmospheric Science and the University of York. To read his co-authored comment look out for a link in the show notes. Finally on the show it's time for the briefing chat. Well we chat about a couple of articles that have been featured in the nature briefing. This week I'm joined by none other than Flora Graham senior editor of the nature briefings. So a couple of stories we're going to talk about then Flora. Let's start with this one: A new kind of ice discovered.

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