Is the Law Valid or Is That Really Law?

"It seems to me like we've overloaded the term laws, right? And we mean something completely different," he says. "We took quite a bit of work to try to take seriously the idea that you would say our laws that have been passed in our social interactions are not laws because they don't line up with those natural laws" He adds: "I found myself having to work really, really, really hard to even take it seriously."