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Jonathan Karl on Trump's Final Days

The Dispatch Podcast

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Jonathan Carl: Mark Meadows now trying to walk back reports that the president is furious. He says there was an initial positive test, but he didn't say you had COVID during the debate. And then I also sat down with Trump and Mar-a-Lago for the book in March, and if you look at the question, it is precisely as described by Meadows.

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