A lot of countries in the global south are kind of stuck, and some would argue made to be stuck at the extraction economic level. They're actually sort of servicing debt five times more than they are able to repair or recover from climate disruptions coming their way. And that means that when a war breaks out, any type of product and commodity dependent on energy is usually going to increase in price. It also leads to a fragmentation of socio-economic sort of workings towards equality, which is already very, very difficult in fragile countries for a number of different reasons including political and economic makeup.
On this episode, environmental peacemaker and mediator Olivia Lazard joins Nate to unpack the relationship between mineral deposits, conflict-vulnerable zones, and high biodiversity areas to create interlocking risks to geopolitical and climate stability. Much like Olivia’s research, this conversation covers a wide variety of topics and is jam-packed with information. Will we have to plunder the planet in order to save it? Will we be able to transition to a multi-polar world order somewhat peacefully? And what can we learn from mediators and peacemakers, like Olivia, as we move into a more materially constrained future - where the whole pie is smaller?
About Olivia Lazard:
Olivia is an environmental peacemaking and mediation practitioner as well as a researcher and a fellow at Carnegie Europe. Her research focuses on the geopolitics of climate, the transition ushered by climate change, and the risks of conflict and fragility associated with climate change and environmental collapse. She has over twelve years of experience in the peacemaking sector at field and policy levels. In her fieldwork, her focus was to understand how globalization and the international political economy shaped patterns of violence and vulnerability patterns as well as formed new types of conflict systems that our international governance architecture has difficulty tackling with agility.
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