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BONUS: Prosecuting Donald Trump: The 2020 Election Indictment Read by Ali Velshi

Why Is This Happening? The Chris Hayes Podcast

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The Co-Conspirator's Arguments for Election Fraud

On several private phone calls in late December and early January, the defendant repeated knowingly false claims of election fraud. He directly pressured the vice president to use his ceremonial role at the certification proceeding on January 6 to fraudulently overturn the results of the election. On October 11, co-conspirator two had taken the opposite position, writing that neither the constitution nor the ECA provided the vice president discretion in the counting of electoral votes.

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