The Threat to an Idea? And That's the Difference

John Defterios talks to martin sanbu, a Norwegian economist. Martin's family is half ucranian and he has had contact with the region all his life. He says integration with europe would be more powerful than joining nato. John: Is this really about an idea as well as military tactics? Martin: Yes it is - but that doesn't mean we shouldn't take note of what happened in 20 14.