Thanks very much, Rob. Appreciate the question. Jennifer has a question also about the wounds of Christ. She says, if Jesus's nails were in his wrists, according to the Shroud of Turin, why do stigmatic saints have the wounds in their hands?

So this presupposes that the Shroud of Turin is the actual burial cloth of Christ, which many people regard it as. It also presupposes a particular interpretation of the Shroud that sees the nails being driven through the palms. However, if memory serves, there are some people who interpret the Shroud as also interpreting them as coming out on the back of the wrists. So like they're driven through the palm in such a way that they are both in the palm and in the back of the wrist. So I would have to do more research to, you know, to assess the legitimacy of that interpretation of the Shroud. But if memory serves, there is a kind of both and interpretation of the wounds on the Shroud. Having said that, why would stigmatic saints have the manifesting only in the palms and not like through the back of the wrist or through the wrist itself? The answer is Christian art, because what God is doing in mystical phenomena, including visions and including stigmata, is trying to communicate a spiritual message to humanity, either to the person in question or perhaps to a broader group of people. But basically, it's not to teach us about history. It's to communicate a spiritual message. God is interested in drawing people to him spiritually, not in satisfying their curiosity about historical details. And so as a result, God tends to meet people in mystical experiences in a way that they can understand that resonates with their understanding and culture. So people in different cultures may, for example, see the Virgin Mary dressed as a member of their culture, not as what she literally would have worn in first century Jewish Palestine. And like at Fatima and so forth, they were seeing Mary wearing shoes of a different kind than they would have had in the first century. So similarly, when Jesus appears, or when a phenomenon connected to Jesus appears, it's accommodated to the understanding of the person receiving it. So if the if the stigmatist receiving stigmata has always seen that Christian art with depicted through the palms, that's the way God's going to reach the person, because God is trying to teach something about the mystical spiritual significance of Christ's suffering on our behalf, not the precise details of where the wounds were. And this is something that actually was discussed by Pope Benedict the 14th back actually when he was a cardinal, he wrote a very famous treatise on the canonization of saints and the beatification of blessed. And he talked in it about mystical phenomena, including visions. And one of the questions he considered was, why do some visionaries see Christ crucified in three places, like through each hand and then both feet together? And why does some see him being crucified with four nails rather than three? And Benedict the 14th answer was, because of the consciousness of the seer, God is not trying to teach us details about the nails that would satisfy our historical curiosity. He's trying to communicate something of spiritual significance to this to the visionary. And the same thing would apply to a stigmatist. A stigmatist is not receiving the stigmata to satisfy historical curiosity. And so we shouldn't rely on on the manifestations of particular stigmata as

definitively corresponding to exactly where the wounds appeared on Christ.