Is Your Relationship Relevance Realistic?

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I want my relevance, realization, to be in the best possible relationship with what is most real. I totally agree that's one of the things... One of our meta-desires is whatever is satisfying our desires is also real. Romanticism says it's subjective. But you're saying there's reality realization. And can I get relevance realization to be optimally gripping in the best right relationship with it? There's good reason you can because think about it, your relevance realization isn't just representing properties of the world. It's instantiating it. That's something very similar to biological evolution, which is that the guts of life, if I'm right, running your cognition is not just

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(00:00) – Introduction
(07:03) – Meaning
(27:17) – Consciousness
(36:17) – Relevance realization
(47:40) – Wisdom
(54:54) – Truth
(59:38) – Reality
(1:11:59) – Meaning crisis
(1:35:27) – Religion
(1:43:17) – Nontheism
(1:58:26) – Distributed cognition
(2:16:37) – Flow
(2:36:35) – Psychedelics
(2:45:03) – Marxism and Nazism
(2:57:08) – Evil
(3:01:19) – Powerful ideas
(3:08:10) – Advice for young people