
The Making of Industry Transformers
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The Permission to Move Toward Freedom
Do the conversations that you guys have changed? Yeah. The questions change. Yes. Because the stakes get higher or what? No, because the now all the stops can be pulled out as they were kind of put on layaway for so many years. And at that point, do you just start to see a change of behavior when you're working with them or what happens after you start to see that permission take hold? You know, I don't really know. Well, the permission that I'm talking about is the permission and the confirmation. That the suspicions that everything when everybody was wrong were true. So if someone doesn't already have that, then there's no permission needed. Then
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