Bach has as you've alluded to Stephen a certain amount of fun and 20 children Beethoven never has sex Bach obeys all the rules Beethoven breaks them. We have to assume that Bach was anti-Semitic Beethoven not at all he has a very happy friendship with a young medical student who gives him the idea for the first song cycle. He is absolutely all over this young man and there is no hint whatsoever of any of the prejudices that are so embedded and so prevalent in the society of his time beethoven treats every human being on merit and if there is no merit still treats them as an equal. In many ways we think of him as perhaps as being a

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