In this episode Salvatore Pais, an aerospace engineer and inventor, discusses his UFO patents, the controversial Pais Effect, and the concept of a Superforce linking quantum gravity to propulsion. We explore the physics behind the patents, the challenges of publishing, and the broader implications for advanced technology.

- 00:00:00 - Introduction
- 00:04:58 - UFO patents story
- 00:09:23 - Why Sal emailed Curt
- 00:12:16 - Pais Effect
- 00:13:38 - UFO patents
- 00:17:28 - Patent officer rejection
- 00:21:23 - Energy in quantum vacuum (Superforce intro)
- 00:23:58 - Are patents disinformation?
- 00:25:13 - James Sheehy claim "operable"
- 00:26:31 - Using 1 Coulomb charge
- 00:28:05 - Inspiration for patents
- 00:29:15 - Spin vs Vibration
- 00:30:19 - Piezoelectric materials
- 00:35:11 - Eric Davis book influence
- 00:36:19 - Schwinger effect
- 00:39:13 - Gertsenshtein effect
- 00:42:35 - Microwave emitters in craft walls
- 00:46:15 - Prigogine effect
- 00:50:57 - Why Quantum Gravity is non-trivial
- 00:58:32 - Superforce / Planck force
- 01:10:21 - [Dan Zetterstrom] Ball lightning and plasma
- 01:11:17 - UFO orbs as plasma probes
- 01:16:10 - Trying to publish on Arxiv
- 01:17:47 - Publishing the patents
- 01:22:49 - Detecting UAPs via effect
- 01:23:21 - Being called a charlatan
- 01:26:36 - Cost to build technology
- 01:28:24 - Why gov't didn't file secretly
- 01:31:34 - Sal on disinformation claims
- 01:33:33 - Hurt by being called charlatan
- 01:35:24 - Eric Davis and Hal Puthoff
- 01:37:13 - Being kind to unkind
- 01:38:47 - Physics without philosophy analogy
- 01:45:30 - Convincing James Sheehy
- 01:50:05 - Podkletnov and Ning Li research
- 01:54:56 - Behind the scenes?
- 01:58:32 - Sal's message to audience

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