Prison as a Metaphor

The prison example gets brought up in buddhism quite a bit. But i have not been in prison, so i hear it, and i can kind of trapolate from it. My lived experience through federal prison undoubtedly, like i said, it contectualizes my mmy every now this conversation. In facti, you know, my experience with the criminal justice in america directly informs my, my my activism for criminal justice reform. I did not have that passion, admittedly, prior to two thousand and one. So i'm grateful, i am grateful to be here right now with you, duncan, having this conversation. That is my gratitude.