Are We Aiming to High?

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I'm going to push you on some things that i both find superinteresting and that perhaps come as naturally to me, which is the spiritual element of this. I feel like there's certain emergencies going on in america. And especially the collapse of meaning a it dictates that we go towards the question of how do we become whole? It would be one thing if they were sort of just pockets, to give a metaphor, like little damns breaking here and there,. That suggest that there's an issue with mass polarization in America. But it seems to me like a soname is coming. And i think that that type of problem requires a holistic solution. You can't sort of like put

Chloé Valdary is a writer and entrepreneur whose company, Theory of Enchantment, aims to offer a “human approach” to diversity and inclusion training.

In this week’s conversation, Yascha Mounk and Chloé Valdary discuss the flaws of the dominant paradigm in diversity, equity, and inclusion; why many of today’s interpersonal conflicts stem from a larger crisis of meaning; and how to engage in big debates about social issues without becoming a combatant in the culture war.

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