Robert: I wanted to shift gears a little bit. You mentioned my co-host Robert, you guys did an episode a while back, but he recently had a guest on his name is Ken Rusk. He's actually an Ohio guy up in Salido and he wrote a book called Blue Collar Cash. A lot of ideas and principles are similar to your kind of sweaty startup ideas. My advice every single time is to do whatever can set you up to then do what you're passionate about.

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