Imogen kept hearing similar stories with similar language. This is an industry with high commitment and low margins, which creates cycle. There are long hours, which make staff sick, but then taking sick leave means you'll miss your shift,. So no one has a day off. If you're doing astage, the unpaid internship, you can work up to 16 hours a day. Those types of days are min at noma. They talked about it being like o cult. They talkedabout it being military. Yes, i was really struck and kind of disturbed by the number of people who said that they thought the system of chef's learning bad behaviour in the kitchen could be 'justifiably

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