The Unrecognizable Team That Begun in 1997

Ron Dennis: We were trying to win championships. But ultimately we just didn't have the resource to compete with the big teams at the time, you know, Rebels and Ferrari and McLaren and people. I think getting in line, but also there was a lot of learning that we did. In the Braun year, we started work on that car that 2009 car very early. We had a head start aerodynamically in terms of the regulations, but we were slipping back through that whole season. The effects of that you saw in 2010 and onwards. It soon grew. So who employed you, Ron? Was it Adri and Raynard? Well, I suppose you were still building then.