I didn't want any big guests until I had improved as an interviewer. The best episode for the podcast is probably 20 years away or 30 or 40. It's just it's all good like that you maybe you're not getting the guests you want yet. You're built into that and that's a good thing. And yeah, there's also something interesting about like, and listen, you might know yourself way better at 17 than I did when I was 17.

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