The Gideon Case Isn't Implemented Properly

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There is one an argument that the Gideon case simply isn't implemented well. So there are many ways in which you could say like well the law is the law and in some cases it's just applied very very poorly. The counter argument is that there is something about rights as a rights discourse where this will always happen. It doesn't get supported in the way that it that it ought to.

Poor and black defendants have more legal rights than ever, but that didn't stop mass incarceration. Why is that? We talk about a paper by Paul Butler called "Poor People Lose: Gideon and the Critique of Rights." Plus, we answer the question that’s on everyone’s mind: how to live as an anti-natalist. And Tamler is appalled to discover David's anti-natalist leanings.