The key to this is being intentional and aware of what kind of meeting is this? What are my geniuses and how do they correspond? Right. And then the next type of meeting, which is decision making. Sometimes these we, you brainstorming it flows right into decision making mode. The primary one is D discernment. But even in decision making, there's still a little bit of I going on because they might go, Is there a better way to do this?