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Episode 5 | Marcel Dzama and Will Butler

Dialogues: The David Zwirner Podcast

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My Dad Was a Biker, and I Was Taking My Shotgun Back to the School

My dad was a biker before he was married and everything. He had his own little gang, but they were fighting with the other... A micro collective. So maybe that's where the creativity came from. I'd be like, can I skip school on Tuesday to go play on Conan? And they would be like, yes, you can go playon Conan. But your brother also went to finish university because you then went back to school after playing for, I guess, a semester or? Yeah, I went. They're like, OK, just make sure that you graduate from college.

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