817. Delia Cai
Otherppl with Brad Listi
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Is This Like Tropey or Obligatory Obligory Overdose?
Kyle: I remember like not being really aware of it growing up but then when the crisis got more news I just like kind of the wildest thing happened where someone I knew was doing a story about mothers who had lost kids to an overdose. He says that phrase even captures how entrenched he thinks this problem is in small towns and flower states across the U.S. Kyle on his break-up with Ben: "I can't abide this"
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